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⤷ <a href="/asdfgh/audiovideo" >audiovideo</a>: file multimediali vari<br>
⤷ <a href="/asdfgh/games" >games</a>: videogiochi ma anche giochi IRL<br>
⤷ <a href="/asdfgh/lit" >lit</a>: fumetti, libri, zine e pubblicazioni accademiche, rant vari<br>
⤷ <a href="/asdfgh/lit/universita" >lit</a>: fanculo le copisterie, tutti i tuoi bisogni universitari si fermano qui<br>
⤷ <a href="/asdfgh/matrioska" >matrioska</a>: film, ma non quei film :^) e serie tv<br>
⤷ <a href="/asdfgh/vibbra" >vibbra</a>: ora che hai tutta la musica ti mancano solo le info<br>
⤷ <a href="/arstdh/vibbra" >more vibbra</a>: pensavi davvero che bastasse un link per avere tutta la musica?<br>

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<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
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<li><a href="#orgc78ab8a">1. &#x2013;archive flags</a></li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
<p>
&#x2013;dry-run does not produce the same output file.
Remove &#x2013;info=progress 2 and use &#x2013;itemize-changes
</p>
<pre class="example">
rsync -e ssh user@archimede.local:/media/asparagi/ /media/asparagi \
--info=progress2 --log-file ~/rsync.log \
--archive --verbose --human-readable --links --update --delete \
--dry-run # warrant against copy-paste
</pre>
<p>
NOTA GLI SLASH
</p>
<pre class="example">
YXcstpoguax path/to/file
|||||||||||
||||||||||╰- x: The extended attribute information changed
|||||||||╰-- a: The ACL information changed
||||||||╰--- u: The u slot is reserved for future use
|||||||╰---- g: Group is different
||||||╰----- o: Owner is different
|||||╰------ p: Permission are different
||||╰------- t: Modification time is different
|||╰-------- s: Size is different
||╰--------- c: Different checksum (for regular files), or
|| changed value (for symlinks, devices, and special files)
|╰---------- the file type:
| f: for a file,
| d: for a directory,
| L: for a symlink,
| D: for a device,
| S: for a special file (e.g. named sockets and fifos)
╰----------- the type of update being done::
&lt;: file is being transferred to the remote host (sent)
&gt;: file is being transferred to the local host (received)
c: local change/creation for the item, such as:
- the creation of a directory
- the changing of a symlink,
- etc.
h: the item is a hard link to another item (requires
--hard-links).
.: the item is not being updated (though it might have
attributes that are being modified)
*: means that the rest of the itemized-output area contains
a message (e.g. "deleting")
</pre>
<pre class="example">
&gt;f+++++++++ some/dir/new-file.txt
.f....og..x some/dir/existing-file-with-changed-owner-and-group.txt
.f........x some/dir/existing-file-with-changed-unnamed-attribute.txt
&gt;f...p....x some/dir/existing-file-with-changed-permissions.txt
&gt;f..t..g..x some/dir/existing-file-with-changed-time-and-group.txt
&gt;f.s......x some/dir/existing-file-with-changed-size.txt
&gt;f.st.....x some/dir/existing-file-with-changed-size-and-time-stamp.txt
cd+++++++++ some/dir/new-directory/
.d....og... some/dir/existing-directory-with-changed-owner-and-group/
.d..t...... some/dir/existing-directory-with-different-time-stamp/
</pre>
<p>
mergerfs <i>mnt/a1</i>:/mnt/b1/:/mnt/d1/:/mnt/e1/ /media/asparagi -o
threads=6,allow<sub>other,use</sub><sub>ino,cache.files</sub>=off,dropcacheonclose=true,category.create=mfs,moveonenospc=true,minfreespace=20G,fsname=mergerfsPool,nonempty
</p>
<div id="outline-container-orgc78ab8a" class="outline-2">
<h2 id="orgc78ab8a"><span class="section-number-2">1</span> &#x2013;archive flags</h2>
<div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">
<p>
It's all of these:
</p>
<blockquote>
<p>
-r, &#x2013;recursive recurse into directories
</p>
<p>
-l, &#x2013;links copy symlinks as symlinks
</p>
<p>
-p, &#x2013;perms preserve permissions
</p>
<p>
-t, &#x2013;times preserve modification times
</p>
<p>
-g, &#x2013;group preserve group
</p>
<p>
-o, &#x2013;owner preserve owner (super-user only)
</p>
<p>
-D same as &#x2013;devices &#x2013;specials
</p>
<p>
&#x2013;devices preserve device files (super-user only)
</p>
<p>
&#x2013;specials preserve special files
</p>
</blockquote>
<p>
It excludes:
</p>
<blockquote>
<p>
-H, &#x2013;hard-links preserve hard links
</p>
<p>
-A, &#x2013;acls preserve ACLs (implies -p)
</p>
<p>
-X, &#x2013;xattrs preserve extended attributes
</p>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div id="postamble" class="status">
<p class="author">Author: user</p>
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--dry-run does not produce the same output file. Use: remove
--info=progress 2 and use --itemize-changes
--dry-run does not produce the same output file.
Remove --info=progress 2 and use --itemize-changes
#+begin_src
rsync -e ssh user@archimede.local:/media/asparagi/ /media/asparagi \
--info=progress2 --log-file ~/rsync.log \
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NOTA GLI SLASH
#+begin_verbatim
#+begin_src
YXcstpoguax path/to/file
|||||||||||
||||||||||╰- x: The extended attribute information changed
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attributes that are being modified)
*: means that the rest of the itemized-output area contains
a message (e.g. "deleting")
#+end_verbatim
#+begin_verbatim
#+end_src
#+begin_src
>f+++++++++ some/dir/new-file.txt
.f....og..x some/dir/existing-file-with-changed-owner-and-group.txt
.f........x some/dir/existing-file-with-changed-unnamed-attribute.txt
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cd+++++++++ some/dir/new-directory/
.d....og... some/dir/existing-directory-with-changed-owner-and-group/
.d..t...... some/dir/existing-directory-with-different-time-stamp/
#+end_verbatim
#+end_src
mergerfs /mnt/a1/:/mnt/b1/:/mnt/d1/:/mnt/e1/ /media/asparagi -o
threads=6,allow_other,use_ino,cache.files=off,dropcacheonclose=true,category.create=mfs,moveonenospc=true,minfreespace=20G,fsname=mergerfsPool,nonempty
** --archive flags
It's all of these:
#+begin_quote
-r, --recursive recurse into directories
-l, --links copy symlinks as symlinks
-p, --perms preserve permissions
-t, --times preserve modification times
-g, --group preserve group
-o, --owner preserve owner (super-user only)
-D same as --devices --specials
--devices preserve device files (super-user only)
--specials preserve special files
#+end_quote
It excludes:
#+begin_quote
-H, --hard-links preserve hard links
-A, --acls preserve ACLs (implies -p)
-X, --xattrs preserve extended attributes
#+end_quote

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* Season one
** Episode three
The painting is Job on the Dunghill by Durer.
From wikipedia:
#+begin_quote
The Hebrew Book of Job is part of Ketuvim ("Writings") of the Hebrew
Bible. Not much is known about Job based on the Masoretic Text.
The characters in the Book of Job consist of Job, his wife, his three
friends (Bildad, Eliphaz, and Zophar), a man named Elihu, God, and
angels (one of whom is named Satan).
It begins with an introduction to Job's character—he is described as a
blessed man who lives righteously in the Land of Uz. The Lord's praise
of Job prompts an angel with the title of "satan" ("accuser") to
suggest that Job served God simply because God protected him. God
removes Job's protection and gives permission to the angel to take his
wealth, his children, and his physical health (but not his life).
Despite his difficult circumstances, he does not curse God, but rather
curses the day of his birth. And although he anguishes over his
plight, he stops short of accusing God of injustice. Job's miserable
earthly condition is simply God's will.
In the following, Job debates with three friends concerning his
condition. They argue whether it was justified, and they debate
solutions to his problems. Job ultimately condemns all their counsel,
beliefs, and critiques of him as false. God then appears to Job and
his friends out of a whirlwind, not answering Job's central questions.
Job, by staying silent before God, stresses the point that he
understands that his affliction is God's will even though he despairs
at not knowing why. Job appears faithful without direct knowledge of
God and without demands for special attention from God, even for a
cause that all others would declare to be just. And the text gives an
allusion to Job 28:28: "And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the
Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding".
God rebukes the three friends and gives them instruction for the
remission of sin, followed by Job being restored to an even better
condition than his former wealthy state (Job 42:10–17). Job is blessed
to have seven sons, and three daughters named Jemimah (which means
"dove"), Keziah ("cinnamon"), and Keren-happuch ("horn of
eye-makeup"). His daughters were said to be the most beautiful women
in the land.
#+end_quote
In the Greek Old Testament Book of Job
#+begin_quote
This man is described in the Syriac book as living in the land of
Ausis, on the borders of Idumea and Arabia: and his name before was
Jobab; and having taken an Arabian wife, he begot a son whose name was
Ennon. And he himself was the son of his father Zare, one of the sons
of Esau, and of his mother Bosorrha, so that he was the fifth from
Abraam. And these were the kings who reigned in Edom, which country he
also ruled over: first, Balac, the son of Beor, and the name of his
city was Dennaba: but after Balac, Jobab, who is called Job, and after
him Asom, who was governor out of the country of Thaeman: and after
him Adad, the son of Barad, who destroyed Madiam in the plain of Moab;
and the name of his city was Gethaim. And his friends who came to him
were Eliphaz, of the children of Esau, king of the Thaemanites, Baldad
sovereign of the Sauchaeans, Sophar king of the Minaeans.
#+end_quote
** Episode five
Christine means "follower of Christ". I think Christine is carrying
the second coming of Christ. Tom is representative of "Doubting
Thomas" aka Judas. Tom will not believe Christine is carrying the
second coming of Christ.
** Episode seven
This episode I noticed a crazy amount of blue, as someone else mentioned. Rewatch it; it’s fun. Besides the obvious mailboxes, the color is everywhere. The blue wrapped around a tree during the fridge in the woods scene, when Kevin runs through the GR chasing his Daddy, almost all the doorways, awnings, flags, clothing is blue. When Tommy is stalking the mailbox, there is a blue ribbon on his antenna and a blue ribbon on the blue billboard above the mailbox.There is a shit load of blue in Nora’s room. Several women in particular in the episode wearing blue shirts. There are lots of water references. Sex scene is in all blue. And there are way too many more to mention. I don’t think it “means” anything per say, however, like a pink ribbon for breast cancer, the blue ribbon symbolizes the day of the departed. I think Damon is weaving the color in just as a subliminal and symbolic device.
- Both Tommy and Kevin also handle wads of cash in their scenes. Just another tie in there.
- This episode made a point of attempting to defacing Wayne a bit and
validating Kevin Sr. Doesn’t mean one is a nut job and the other
isn’t, but they sure went out of there way to punch holes in Wayne’s
authenticity and lend support to Sr.’s voices. Him being guided by
them to save Jill alone is an example. All the relevant clues you
all found in the Nat Geo issue too.
- I predict the theory someone mentioned about the GR using that
Departed Replica Service Nora stumbled across at the convention will
happen. In the previews you see a bunch of people’s clothes layed
out into outfits on the floor. They took all those photos of the
departed, which is what they would need to have an accurate dummy
made. That scream Nora makes seems like an appropriate reaction to
finding replicas of her ex and her kiddos in her house. And the “We
made them remember” note we see the GR scribble. Yup, I think that’s
gonna happen.
Major stories from the May 1972 Nat'l Geographic issue
— Yellowstone’s Hundredth Birthday
— Cairo, Troubled Capital Of The Arab World
— Living In A Japanese Village
— The Spider That Lives Underwater
— Have Excavations On The Island Of Thera Solved The Riddle Of The Minoans
I watched with subtitles, when Garvey was awake watching the door with
the radio on the table, he gets up to open the door and turns to look
at the radio. You can overhear someone on the radio saying "Cairo"
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** Episode nine
So the Departure freed everyone from their burdens, whether they
wanted to be free or not.
- Kevin: Freed from making the mistake of cheating on his wife. In the
moment I'm sure he didn't want that lady to disappear, but the
Departure gave him a way of escaping the mistake he knew he was
making.
- Laurie: Freed from having a baby that she couldn't handle. She hadn't
told Kevin yet, and she knew she was emotionally not prepared for
another baby. Of course she didn't wish that the baby would disappear,
but the Departure made it so she wouldn't have to deal with having the
baby.
- Nora: Freed from the stress of family. Pretty obvious. She didn't want
her family to literally disappear, but in that moment she was probably
thinking how much easier her life would be without them.
- Also the mom with the crying baby and the family with the disabled son
The Departure - in theory - should have made everyone's life easier.
By taking away all the stressors, the Departure is really God/the
Universe's way of showing people what is truly important in life.
* Season two
** Episode one
In astronomy, axis mundi is the Latin term for the axis of Earth
between the celestial poles.
Regarding the opening scene: beyond thematic/symbolic meaning, I think
there's something literally and physically important about that spot.
The ledge where the cavewoman died is the same one that the girls
parked their car on when they went missing, overlooking the pond where
Kevin tried to kill himself. This is shown through the camera work
(which focused on the light gray rocky surface of the ledge in the
transition between the cavewoman dying and Evie and her friends going
for a swim). Modern-day residents like to attribute the earthquakes in
Jarden to fracking or gas explosions, but it seems that spot has been
prone to earthquakes for ages.
Also, when Kevin was in the well with Patti, she said: “Our cave
collapsed, Kevin. Now we can spend all our time digging through the
rubble, looking for signs of life. Or…we can transform.” Unless the
cave from the story is popular mythology in the Leftovers universe,
it's an odd thing to say. There was also some sort of cave incident in
Australia, according to some of the in-show newscasts.
Long story short, I think the scene is going to show its significance
in Season 3. Perhaps it's some kind of portal to another world (or to
Australia).
Something about the behaviors of the 3 missing girls stuck with me..
It seemed they 'put on a good show' whenever visible or in public,
acting like normal teenage girls. But the only two shots when they
were alone resonated, specifically: 1) when they're in the car riding
back from swimming in the beginning, dead quiet - no music - still
faces. and 2) when they're running through the woods naked... I don't
know what any of this means, or if there's any significance. But it
did get me thinking about what lies underneath with them, and if it
has anything to do with their disappearance.
1: To show that Jarden is inherently special or magical.
Q: What’s the significance of the prologue, which takes place in the same spot that becomes Miracle?
A: The episode is called “Axis Mundi,” an ancient thought that goes back thousands of years. The idea is there are parts of the planet that served as a cosmic pole around which the entire universe circles. So for instance, the pyramids at Giza, the temple in Jerusalem, the Kaaba in Mecca are axis mundis. What’s really remarkable about an axis mundi is that putting something sacred there is not what makes it sacred. It’s that the land itself was already sacred for some mysterious reason, and that’s why people put something there. Jarden is an axis mundi. To indicate that, Damon [Lindelof] came up with this clever prologue, which will of course pay off in subsequent episodes. The inherent sanctity and magic of this place — whatever it is — is an eternal thing. It’s not just something that happened at the sudden departure.
and 2: to parallel the cavewoman saving/finding the cavebaby and Nora saving/finding Lily
Q:Is there a parallel between the Eve-like woman in the prologue whose baby is rescued by another woman, and Nora finding Holy Wayne’s baby on the Garvey’s doorstep?
A: Very much so. Everything that happens, the symbolism, is quite deliberate. You should read something into everything you see.
** Episode two
#+begin_quote
"Knock, knock."
"Who's there?"
"Broken pencil."
"Broken pencil, who?"
"Never mind, it's pointless."
#+end_quote
** Episode three
I'm realizing that what this show is absolutely excelling at in its
second season is sowing doubt. The MIT guys mention their thesis, and
it's enough to make Nora impulsively buy a house in Jarden. The former
GR member gets a note saying "Any Day Now" and it's enough to send her
back over the edge. Kevin's visions of Patti, the psychic warning to
John, Tom's story about his powers. Instinctively, we say it's a
hallucination, fake, not real. Against the laws of nature. But as
Kevin's dad said last week, "The laws of fucking nature have seemed a
little upside down lately."
I'm loving the craven commodification of the rapture that keeps
popping up. Last season, we had the Departure convention with uncanny
valley dolls and feel-good self-help pablum authors. This season, we
got Miracle, which is basically Mecca-meets-Disneyland. Now, before we
even get to the theme song, we get Departure Insurance. It's such a
ridiculous concept -- how could you possibly estimate the likelihood
of another departure? It's not like it's flood insurance, where you
can look up weather patterns or something.
The publishers seemed over the top, but -- and maybe I'm dating myself
here -- I vaguely remember how quickly the September 11th attacks got
commercialized. There were songs and books and commerative everything.
This show is supposed to be about how people deal with tragedy, but
for how universal the rapture was, it's taking an American
perspective. Which is fine, but this show is particularly about how we
deal with shared tragedy in the United States.
** Episode four
So the population has now balanced out to 9,261. Isaac leaves town,
Kevin's family of four come in, and the three girls depart. Also, in
the prayer circle as Nora is going into the woods to look for the
girls, they chant, "We are the 9,261. We are spared." It sounds like
they know that departures happen in their town, and that the
population always stays the same.
Actually the people that replaced Matt and his wife were the former
priest and his wife. The priest had hip surgery in Austin I think.
Another Biblical reference: The hotel where Isaac (an important
Biblical character) was staying was called Babylon - both a place
where people were kept captive but also in Revelation (end times).
Babylon is known for captivity and exile.
Virgil was a real Roman poet who represented to the real Dante
Alighieri the pinnacle of human reason as well as the limitations of
human reason. In The Divine Comedy Virgil was sent by Beatrice to
serve as Dante's guide through Hell and Purgatory.
Has Patti told him anything that his subconscious mind didn't already
know? I'm not sure if I think she's the voice of his hidden
personality to his "normal" personality or if I think she's externally
trying to get him go somewhere or do something for her.
** Episode five
Job's wife spoke only once. Same for Matt's in this episode.
Good episode. Job beings Matts favorite book is very fitting. The poor
guy is constantly getting shit on. Mary being pregnant is the one
glimmer of hope he got this episode it was nice to see him feel some
joy.
I'm starting to really dislike John. He's a bully who will intimidate
anyone doing something he doesn't like. I hope we find out what made
him the way he is.
The ending was very sad. I admire Matt for saving that man but I hate
seeing him take his place. What is he repenting for? How long will be
up there? Will someone else take his place? Will he inspire change in
the camps?
I don't think it's about him repenting for his own actions. I think
he's repenting for the town of Miracle and what it's doing to everyone
involved. You can see the separation between "us" vs "them" is driving
a father to literally become a road side bandit to find safety for his
child. And what is it all worth? An orphan. Did Jesus die on the cross
for his own sins? No. He died on the cross for everyone else's sins.
The show was really obvious about one thing, and that is the Job
parallel. Matt mentions his favorite book of The bible is Job. In this
book, Job is highly favored by God, and is prosperous in all aspects
of life. Satan makes a wager with God, that if he let Satan have his
way with Job's life, Job would turn his back on him. God takes the
bet, and Job loses his wife, children, land, cattle, wealth, and even
his health (harsh, I know, but that's the Old Testament God for you).
Through all this, Job remains faithful to his god, and Satan is proven
wrong about him. Job regains it all back several times over (new wife,
many kids, lands, wealth).
I think it's very typical that Matt's favorite book of The bible would
be Job. He needs to believe there is a coming back from this low.
Love the "What denomination?" line. Callback to when he was at the
casino exchanging money for chips in his episode last season.
9,261 in town. No matter what. Our 4 protagonists come to town, three
girls disappear and Isaac. The father and son enter with their wristbands,
taking the place of Matt and Mary. Father dies, son stays. Mary goes
in, Matt stays outside. It must remain 9,261.
A theory... John's job is be the one who makes sure the numbers don't
rise. Therefore, he must be vigilant about squashing any rumors about
"miracles" that would increase population in the town. I don't know if
everyone is in on it, or he might be one of of a handful of people who
know about the numbers.
** Episode six
The brilliance of this show is their ability to present mysteries
which are left intentionally ambiguous so that the viewer projects
onto the story their own beliefs and interpretations. Every question
can be viewed through the lens of the skeptic or the believer. The
only truly paranormal occurrence on this show has been the initial
disappearance on Oct. 14th. All subsequent anomalies can be
interpreted as genuine mystical phenomenon or perfectly explainable
depending upon perspective. Did the river drain through supernatural
means or was it foreshadowed that the area lies on a fault line and
the water slipped through cracks? Does Garvey see a ghost or is he
mental ill, a potential genetic disorder shared with his father? Did
Holy Wayne truly heal people or were they just ready to accept
something they truly wanted to believe in - to be loved and forgiven?
I don't think any of these questions will ever truly be given a
definitive answer because that flies in the face of the goal of the
show, to read to the audience in different ways depending upon what
they want to believe.
An interesting note on Wikipedia regarding Azrael:
#+begin_quote
There is no reference to Azrael in the Catholic Bible, and he is
not considered a canonical figure within Christianity. There is,
however, a story in 2 Esdras (disallowed by the Catholic and
Protestant Churches, but considered canonical in Eastern Orthodox
teachings) which is part of the Apocrypha. 2 Esdras has the story
of a scribe and judge named Ezra, also sometimes written "Azra" in
different languages. Azra was visited by the Archangel Uriel and
given a list of laws and punishments he was to adhere to and
enforce as judge over his people. Azra was later recorded in the
Apocrypha as having entered Heaven "without tasting death's
taint". Depending on various religious views, it could be taken as
Ezra ascending to angelic status. This would add the suffix "el"
to his name, which denotes a heavenly being (e.g. Michael,
Raphael, Uriel).
#+end_quote
That part about entering heaven without experiences death sounds a lot
like the departure.
** Episode seven
Laurie's in town now, population is increased. The old man shot and killed himself to equalize, so Kevin's not dead.
Big thing for me is we see Virgil making them BOTH lemonade to drink
in the scene where Kevin goes to talk the first time they discuss
while Kevin is awake. I don't believe that imagery was by chance as I
don't believe anything in this show is by chance. I believe he made
Kevin the poison, (there was still plenty of poison left for Virgil to
drink had he wanted to follow suit) but shot himself because one has
the potential to be reborn (poison) and the other is the final
(gunshot) because as so many have pointed out, he is to be Kevin's
guide through hell/battle. Virgil's death is a sacrifice, and must be
final while Kevin's death is based in the ideology of the grandmothers
bird practice. When Erica buried her bird she did ask for Evie to be
ok without her so she could leave her husband, something did happen to
Evie so her wish was granted, it simply wasn't in the way she intended
it to be. She clearly had that bag packed in the closet with money and
hearing aid batteries ready to leave.
And yeah I think Virgil molested Michael and John as his father wanted
revenge on that hurt. He probably became even further angry when his
father in law didn't die. Because of the magic component it's probably
why he holds the "there are no miracles in miracle" anger and
debunking so close to heart. It would not be a miracle to him that a
man that molested his son didn't die.
I think y'all are taking some self-made rules for granted. In this
episode, Kevin was given two solutions for his problem: one from
science, one from superstition. He made his choice, look what happened
to him. The show's not gonna give us the answers so this discussion
would probably go for years and no one would win but I think one thing
is sure: we're not gonna see "magic" happening any moment soon. If
Kevin survives I suppose is gonna be something as ambiguous as what
we've seen, maybe what Virgil gave him wasn't really that letal, don't
know. And if Patti's gone, then you can argue that Kevin is telling
himself to have figured the problem out, even though I think some
pills would have helped more (also in a way less dramatic fashion).
Anyway, grreeeeat episode. Love Ann Dowd.
** Episode eight
I don't know if this has been discussed yet or not, but there was an
interesting tie-in to Greek mythology in this episode.
Virgil warns Kevin not to drink the water at the hotel. After a while
we realize that the people who have drunk the water don't seem to be
the same people that Kevin knew in the real world, or who they were
before they died, if you will.
Here's why I find that interesting: In Hades, there are five rivers
(Styx, Acheron, Lethe, Phlegethon, and Cocytus). The important one
here is Lethe, which is known as the river of forgetfulness. In Hades,
the spirits of the dead were meant to drink the waters of Lethe. In
doing so, they would completely forget their previous life and would
be able to move on and (according to Virgil, the ancient Roman poet)
be reincarnated.
It's awesome that the people in the hotel forgot their earthly
memories upon drinking the water, just like drinking the water of
Lethe in the afterlife. And Neil is such a drunk he remembers who he
is.
Transcript from the radio broadcast about the resurrection in
Australia (Perth): For those who didn't catch it, I just replayed it
on HBO go. The audio clip on the news specifically mentioned the guy
who came out of the cave was David Burton. Broadcaster: "Resurrection,
that's the claim in Australia, as witnesses described a man previously
believed dead, emerging from a cave in Wanneroo, outside the city of
Perth." Australian dude (witness) :" walked out covered in mozzie
bites, saying he'd just been in a hotel! " Reporter:" The man,
identified as David Burton" TV turns off I bet this was the guy from
the bridge.
I do like what they did with Patti. The point of this episode for me
was that at the end of the day, Patti spent her whole life never in
control and always terrified about what some terrible god-like figure
would inflict on her. First it was Neil. Then, after the 14th, it was
whatever made all those people disappear. Spiritually she was still a
child - she never learned to cope with those feelings and move on with
her life. She looked at everything through the lens of terror and lack
of control. In a sense, nothing really changed for her on October 14 -
it changed for everyone else. In a sense, Guilty Remnant is many
people becoming what Pattie was before - silent, out of fear of some
terrible god, just as she obeyed Neil's commands to be silent. (Note
also that Neil is the only one who seems to know what's going on in
that place - so the writers are assigning him some superior status to
the other spirits there).
And so I feel like this episode is really a statement about Guilty
Remnant, and generally how to cope with that feeling of everything you
love suddenly being taken away, as with the collapse of the cave. You
can do what the cave woman did at the beginning of the season, which
is soldier on as best you can; or you can do what Patti did and remain
a spiritual child who refuses to take control because she is too
afraid.
That's also what's interesting about the scene where Pattie (or her
double) is a senator. She seems very confident about her ideology and
being a champion of the Guilty Remnant, but in fact it is a huge lie -
she is still just a child who believes she should keep her mouth shut.
The Guilty Remnant really wants people to stop trying to feel like
they have any control or connection - stop feeling anything so they
can't get hurt when they lose it. It's an ideology based in the same
kind of terror that Pattie felt before the 14th. I mean really, what
is she saying in that speech? Everyone already knows you could lose
anyone you love at any time - that didn't change on the 14th! So why
surrender to that fear? But that's what she wants everyone to do
because that's how she lived her life.
Interesting also that Wayne is her bodyguard: subservient to her,
Wayne another person who gave comfort to people feeling lost, Wayne
who was so keen to kill Kevin when he mentioned Neil - Kevin was
coming close to exposing Pattie's big lie that the Guilty Remnant is
about moving forward. It's really about cowering in fear all the time.
The other interesting thing is that Kevin had three outfits, IIRC, the
pastor's robes, the international assassin, and the cop. The fact that
two other people showed up in similar costumes is telling - I think
they are not three aspects of Kevin but rather three aspects of all
people. Everybody needs to believe in something larger than themselves
(pastor), everybody or most everybody believes in playing by the rules
in society (cop), and there is a part of everyone that subverts both
of those things (assassin). When he sees those three outfits, Kevin is
being asked, how you are going to handle your inner Pattie, ie, your
existential fear? Are you going to turn to religion (pastor's outfit -
religion, cults)? Are you going to just going doing what you normally
do, observe conventions, and try not to think about it (cop)? Or are
you going to get rid of it and attack it and take control?
This is maybe why we see the cop with the black bag over his head, the
priest trembling in fear for some unknown reason. The message of the
show thus far has been about the inadequacy of both their methods.
Going on about your business doesn't really work, and all religions
were at once shown to be a sham. In the face of what happened on
October 14, the cop has a bag over his head and is about to be
executed, the priest is lost and terrified. Both of their ways are for
children who are too scared to find their own way, like Patti. So, you
have to soldier on the best way you can. Put on that assassin's outfit
and just figure it out from there.
Now was this all a dream or a drug trip? That's possible. Virgil could
have committed suicide out of guilt and given Kevin a drug that made
him appear to be dead but not really. I'm not sure why Virgil would do
that second part. And then, what about the bird? Kevin didn't know
about that legend as far as I know.
All I know is, that episode creeped me the fuck out and now I have to
watch something else so I can sleep. There were four outfits in the
closet that Kevin could have chosen. Other than the international
assassin, we saw the cop walking down the hallway with the bag over
his head and the priest crying in the elevator. The fourth was the GR
white clothes. Maybe these are sides to his personality - a man who
certainly has some kind of faith, who once respected the law (maybe he
still does) but takes it into his own hands when he needs to. That
episode was ah-fucking-mazing.
Mary receives balloons: I know one balloon said "Congrats!", and there were some blue-colored balloons. Looks like she has a boy!
Kevin's exit from the bathtub is a birth.
My apologies if this was already mentioned. When senator Patti says
"Our cave's collapsed", it is an obvious reference to the first scene
of this season, but I mostly understand it as a reference to Plato's
allegory of the cave (*): the sudden departure forces leftovers to
face the truth, and the truth according to Patty is that "on October
14 attachment and love became extinct".
I see some kind of connection with the 1st Epistle to the Corinthians
(13:11–13): "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a
child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away
childish things. For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to
face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am
known. And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest
of these is love."
And, incidentally, 1 Corinthians also contains the verse about the
tongues of men and of angels (but not the God's Tongue ;) )
** Episode nine
I guess this explains why the girls sat in complete silence during the
car ride back from the camping trip in the first episode.
I think they were practicing how the route and how fast they could
escape without clothes to ditch any evidence. and spreading scents
through the woods.
The three girls are going to hang themselves off the bridge, per Meg's
plan. Guy in other world that Kevin saw on bridge was getting the
ropes ready.
Well, pretty much nobody saw that coming eh? Whoa.
So I have really come to hate the Guilty Remnant, not just because of
what Meg is doing but what it represents generally. I posted last week
about how being in the GR really is about believing that you are
powerless and that your actions in trying to live an enjoyable life in
the face of a cruel or indifferent world are all pointless. You try to
sheer away all attachments and feelings because you are afraid of
having it taken away from you.
This episode really drove that home for me. Based on the way this
episode proceeeded, it appears to me that Meg's joining the GR was not
directly due to the departure. She has an open wound of a different
kind - the departure made her mother's death seem insignificant and
she was never really able to mourn. So she has felt this constant pain
of loss and fear of the random unknown striking her life in this way,
since her mother's death was very similar to a departure in the way it
felt. One moment she was there, another moment she was not.
But what is awful is that this episode really shows how the Guilty
Remnant is actually about taking that feeling of pain and
powerlessness and really letting it define who you are and your entire
life. Not only are you wallowing in your misery, you are spreading it
around. Meg seems to have taken the lead of the extremist and
terrorist faction, but she has a good point that she makes to the
leaders of the GR that what she is doing is not so different from what
any other GR group does.
There was someone who described the GR as essentially a cult of
depression. People who are severely depressed they tend to disconnect
socially (leave your family, no talking); they engage in
self-destructive behaviors (smoking constantly); they have a flat
affect (no talking, blunted emotions); their sensory experiences are
dulled and they take no pleasure in things that they should enjoy
(plain white clothing, empty buildings, ascetic lifestyle). But worst
of all, severely depressed people engage in constant rumination, which
is the rehashing and repeating of pessimistic and negative thought
processes. So not only do they feel bad, but they keep thinking over
and over about how bad they feel and how permanent that state is, and
how pointless it is to try to get out of it, they are constantly
reliving the experiences that cause them to have this awful mood. And
this is what all the GR's "actions" are about, trying to become
"living reminders" - stalking people, stealing their pictures, putting
the fake bodies in their houses, faking a departure - they are trying
to force people be constantly rehashing and reliving the experience of
the departure because they have succumbed to this way of thinking, and
they want it to define other people's lives too.
People said this episode was setup, but I think it makes some good
observations about human nature. Mainly that people can take any
ideology to an extreme point. And, as a cult of depression, there are
some people who because they are so unhappy they lash out at other
people, sometimes in violence. I suspect Meg was this type of person
before, because we see she was bit of a spoiled rich girl who needed
cocaine to get through basic daily functions.
Cocaine is a very interesting choice. Clearly she was addicted, I mean
who does coke in the middle of the day in the bathroom when you're out
to lunch with your mom? That suggests she had some severe
psychological issues prior to the departure in the first place. It
probably suggests a lack of coping skills (severe drug dependence
generally). This would be despite that she is high-functioning, ie,
she is good at masking her psychological and drug issues. She also
likes uppers, might suggest she deals with her problems by engaging in
goal-oriented behaviors that make her feel like she has power and
control, and erase her bad feelings about herself, but these behaviors
are actually destructive. Her mom also said this about her, that once
she has a goal she will not let up on it. And also, cocaine is
expensive, especially if you're doing it all the time as she evidently
is. I would suggest that as a spoiled rich girl she has always had
access to resources but has never felt like she deserved it and
consequently has low feelings of self worth. Add to this she was
abandoned by a father figure, which can also contribute to low
self-worth feelings.
Taking all this together, we see that Meg is exactly the type of
person to lead the extremist faction of the GR. She is a spoiled rich
girl who does not know how to cope with things not going her way. And
even though she's good at pretending she can cope and handle life
(pretending to want to pay for something her mother bought for her,
even though it is obvious she had no real intention) she is spiteful
and vindictive when she does not get her way- she spits on the ground
of Jarden after she doesn't hear what she wants to hear from the
psychic, even after he warned her that she would not be satisfied no
matter what he said. She hates that the people of Jarden seemed to
have been protected from the pain of loss she and everyone else felt
(even though for her it was not caused by the departure). And so,
vindictive, spiteful and goal oriented, and lacking proper coping
skills, she lashes out at them and tries to take away their happiness
by taking the ideology of the GR's constant reliving of painful
experience to reinforce their sense of powerlessness to violent
extremes. It makes her feel powerful, and coming from where she came
from psychologically prior to the departure, that is her substitute
for real coping skills.
Meg is an asshole. I hope she dies in a fire.
I really like that there were a few callbacks to earlier in the
season, like when Meg says something about putting out a cigarette in
someone's eye. Made me think immediately of episode 2 when Kevin was
questioned by the anti-GR officer wearing an eye patch.
I also doubt it's going to be answered, but I thought the bit about
the gas lines and manhole covers exploding was interesting. We saw it
happen in season 1 in Mapleton and it seems weird that it would also
happen some 1400 miles away in Texas.
** Season two finale
Definitely. There were quite a few Genesis allusions this season.
There was Cain and Able theme, with the older brother attacking the
younger brother (angry over the younger one's close relationship with
God.) We also had the Sodom and Gomorrah vibes in the finale, and, of
course, the snake from the prologue.
edit: Calling back to the baby-threatening snake, the woman who stole
Nora's baby had a snake tattoo.
Jarden wasn't spared. There's pain everywhere, not having any
departures doesn't change that. Evie and Erika understood that, and
Evie's conclusion was that the town couldn't be protected from pain,
so that's why she did what she did. Least that's what my first
thoughts were.
Do you guys even realize that the dramatic climax to this episode was
the main character singing karaoke poorly? And it was excellent.
I just...you can't get this in other shows. A lesser show would have
made International Assassin the season finale. A lesser show would
have had Kevin leading his family to safety during the GR stampede.
This show shoots the main character in the chest, keeps him off screen
for 30-40 minutes, then has him sing karaoke poorly, and it was
excellent. HOW? What kind of fucking witchcraft is this?
Also, how stinkin' perfect is the poetry of Kevin's death? The first
episode of the series ends with Kevin shooting dogs. The last episode
of S2 has Kevin getting shot in a room full of dogs.
So many people are looking for the answers to questions that literally
DON'T MATTER. The entire point of the show, which is clear to me now,
is that we as humans are constantly seeking answers that we will never
find, when the real answer is literally right in front of us.
I see some people think Kevin is dead and went to Heaven, but doesn't
Jarden look more like Hell right now? And he did push a little girl
into a well....I mean.... This could mean the whole time after the
Departure was a Purgatory for the Leftovers to get their stuff
together. The earthquakes are the warnings that time is running out
and something is changing and the GR are ushering in the transition.
Jarden was the Axis Mundi and when stuff got real you could go Up or
Down. His vision of his happy family is at the end is the illusion and
the torment because he will just keep losing them in a myriad of ways
for eternity. Sad Ending.
I think sometimes (and not fully believe but I like to just come up
with theories that may or may not be total bullshit), that if Jarden
is an axis mundi or a place where our world and the afterlife
intersect or have their closest doorway, that it maybe erroneous to
assume it's a doorway or portal to the positive afterlife or heaven.
The garden of Eden was gods place set aside for man, until Satan
slithered in (girl who took Nora's baby and entered the city had snake
tattoo) and took over the garden of Eden and helped man fall with the
help of eve (evie). So while we have always assumed Jarden was a place
of amazing power and good, it may be the opposite. Remember Satan was
an angel until he fell. The bible also mentions if and when you see
Satan he will appear as the most beautiful thing in the world to you.
To Nora, the most beautiful thing in the world is a place safe from
the departure. So I could see Jarden as an axis mundi, a place where
the other side has a little control over our side. But only in that
space. There may be other axis mundii that God controls more than
Satan. Mapleton possibly. Who knows. But that if Satan has control
over Jarden, to some degree, that he protected the town during the
departure (implying the departure was Gods doing in some way for some
reason). But Satan is the great deceiver. The great trickster. So he
would protect a place because he knows that would make people think
it's safe and special and holy and good. So people would flock there.
And eventually, with enough fervor, demand to be encircled by its
protection. That's what we saw tonight. Not really demand to be apart
of the protection, but demand to be inside. While the GR went in to
establish that it wasn't any different than anywhere else, many of the
followers went in believing it was special and holy and protective.
And now, with even more people inside Satans little sandbox on earth,
he can wreak even more destruction. He has them there. He had them
bought in. He had them fully believing the things that happen there
are a result of gods procreation and love. So, he can do as he pleases
and even if people question it being good or bad, they will assume
it's good cause it's Jarden. It's miracle. But with the imagery of the
fire. And the burning. That's hell imagery. And with the earthquakes,
every time we see an earthquake we see (except for the last) someone
come back from the otherside. Kevin twice and Mary once. And they seem
to happen more regularly. Maybe the earthquakes are Satans powers
escaping more concretely into earth. Evil ascending if you will. And
with every win he has, he gets stronger. And if he's stronger, he can
make more earthquakes to get stronger. Maybe the last earthquake was
him getting even more power or entering into Jarden in a corporeal
form. The Sodom and Gomorrah vibe at the end strengthens that view for
me. The greatest trick Satan ever pulled wasn't convincing the world
he didn't exist, but convincing the world his only area of power on
earth was the safest and most protected by God place on earth. So
people flock there. They literally take water away with them. To wear
or hold near them or drink. We see the dangers of drinking the water
as it relates to the otherside. So if Jarden is as close to hell as
you get on earth and always has been, him convincing the entire world
it's the safest place be and to come drink the water or hold the water
near your heart or in your hands as your pray is the most genius evil
of all time. Now people literally hold what is a metaphor for the
blood of Satan in their hands as they pray to God: sacrilege. They
wear it and drink it and take it back to their homes and countries.
Spreading the evil grasp of Satan far and wide, from the meager
beginnings in the Jarden of Eden that he had ruled since the birth of
mankind when he stole it from God and humans through a trick of
knowledge. I know for many this will be a what the fuck did I just
read but I'm not saying it's fact. Just something fun to think about.
There's a lot that fits with it. Maybe Kevin's protector and angels or
prophets aren't god, but Satan all along.
I think based on Michael's story about him and Evie in the tub and her
crying hysterically...that Evie had pretty much grown up with the
understanding that people always pretend everything is ok, but nothing
ever is. And that she knew her mom knew it, too.
In 208, Patti says to Kevin (may not be verbatim) "our cave collapsed,
Kevin. We can either go digging through the rubble, or we can evolve."
She was telling the story of the orphan who would have attachment
issues later in life and how everyone is an orphan after Oct 14 with
attachment issues because anyone can disappear at any moment. It's a
new world and the whole foundation of a former society man had built,
came crumbling down. Like the cave. And the cavewoman's baby was an
orphan after she was bit by a snake and another woman took it. Just
some good ol' metaphor :)
It seems like an earthquake is a harbinger for a miracle. First
episode, the lake drains to save Kevin from suicidal drowning. Then in
the finale, the earthquake has Mary snap out of her coma. So I think
the final earthquake's miracle was just Kevin coming home to his
complete and back intact family.
Anyone see a strong parallel between Kevin and a flawed Christ figure?
He spent three separate days/instances dead (cinder block, poison,
gun). His time spent dead was used to wash away his sin. He
immediately forgave John after shooting him. The song he sings shows
that he is truly choosing suffering rather than whatever waits him
next. His return to life the final time is him raising from the dead
and hopefully leading the people around him to a better place even if
that means dealing with what has been portrayed as unbearable pain. I
absolutely love the religious symbolism in the show. I do not think
there is a right interpretation but rather a large number of vague
similarities that force the viewer to draw their own conclusions
I rather liked how easy it was for him to get back when dressed as the
police officer. This was likely his 4th attempt at coming back. It
seems like all he had to do was embrace himself, his life, his family,
his role as protector (all the things he has been questioning for two
seasons) to be fully healed.
The bridge / karaoke guy is most probably the australian guy (from
Perth?) who were found alive after being dead and
Most probably Virgil raped John (pointing having sinned because of the
junk). John gets molested by Erika's Dad as a youth and then ends up
marrying her? I think it was one of their kids that got molested
(Michael/Evie)
** More Episode 08
I thought the “wardrobe” choices available to Kevin in “International
Assassin” were fascinating. Can you tell us more about the meaning of
the characters he passes in the episode who were dressed as the priest
and the police officer? Do they represent others in this purgatory who
“adorned” themselves differently and then failed in their individual
missions? — Steve, Texas
That's definitely it. Fit's perfectly with Damon Lindelof's answer regarding the who and where of the hotel world. Nice job.
"Certainly one interpretation is that they're alternate versions of
Kevin. Another is that this space is not only accessible to Kevin. If
you're looking at this through the magical prism as opposed to the
psychological prism, we see a few times this Latina woman who appears
to be dressed in scrubs, and if you listen carefully to what she's
saying, that may give an indication of an alternate theory. Not to
mention, to my knowledge as a writer of the show, Kevin doesn't speak
Spanish, and so how would he be having a head trip where somebody was
speaking it fluently?"
#+begin_quote
Guys,
I'm fluent in spanish. I made it my mission to figure out exactly what's going on with the woman that's speaking spanish in the garage and later trying to get a human heart into the hotel.
I have deciphered what's going on. I'll get to it:
SCENE 1
A woman who appears to be a CONCIERGE! speaks "...don't tell me you've [done]..." "No me digas que has he-[cho]..."
Woman in rags responds incredulously " ...But I'm not a Doctor!! " "...pero yo no soy doctora!" Kevin enters, they fall silent.
Scene 2 has already been translated by others. In short, she's trying to get into the hotel to (presumably) perform a heart transplant on someone.
The first scene is the REAL clue. The woman dressed as hotel staff is her Virgil, her guide. She's most likely asking whether she drank any of the water.
The woman on rags picked the outfit of a doctor, so she was given a doctor's mission. Perform an organ transplant to get out of the hotel. That explains why she denies being a doctor, and why she seems so desperate to complete her mission.
If you watch the scenes thinking of this woman as someone with the same "quest" as kevin, it makes sense. That would also explain the priest in the elevator and the cop with the bag over his head. These aren't different versions of kevin, they're actual people trying to get back to the real world, much like kevin.
Edit 1: To clarify: What the woman in rags says is not as important as the intonation. In spanish the tone of voice can make a sentence mean something different. The way she says it, instead of sounding like "I'm not a doctor, just a nurse!" it's said and acted in such a way that it comes off as " What the hell are you talking about, I don't know anything about medical care!". That's what sealed the deal for me.
#+end_quote
** Theory shaman finale S2
This is a little long but you will like it. It explains the connection between the snake and The Australian, the reason why the baby was left on the bridge, Evie and the Garden of Eden, and some other stuff. You will hear my argument for why if the Snake Woman is the snake then Tom Garvey is The Bird. And a universal link between all of these things is discussed, based on what we know the writers know and some shamanist mythology.
From the Reza Aslan interview we know:
Virgil admits that he himself has had a similar journey [to Kevin]. So whatever path Kevin is on is one that many other people in that post-Departure world are also on and have experienced. Joseph Campbell, in his writings about shamans, talks about this character that pops up in a lot of traditions called the dark guardian, and the dark guardian is someone who often accompanies the shaman in these death experiences. But he himself is kind of a trickster character who can't be trusted, may or may not be giving the right advice, and becomes in a sense someone who also has to be overcome for the shaman to finally be reborn and remade. That's all I'll say about that.
Therefore:
Virgil became shaman, he learnt it from a similar experience to Kevin. Shamanism is learnt (Campbell agrees) and Kevin is on shaman path.
The heavy religious and shamanistic themes are based heavily on Campbell's work (and this work is based on universal traditions within shamanism across cultures, the shamanism base to all religion, and also their connection to the Hero's Tale, in a way).
The Australian is the Dark Guardian (read into Campbell's work, some of the notes are below).
Now also note this:
In S02E01 the tribeswoman, bitten by a snake, dies holding the baby, lieing down on a rock. The camera pans to the lake, where the 3 girls (from GR) are playing in the modern day. This shows its the same lake. Also the same lake when Kevin attempted to kill himself before the earthquake saved him.
Jarden is a fictional town. The writers could have chosen any name but they chose Jarden. I believe it is a concatenation of two things:
Jordan. As in the river Jordan from the Bible (The Christian cannot enter the kingdom of the heavens without crossing the “Jordan” in its true, correct typical meaning.)
Garden. As in Garden of Eden. If the tribeswoman was located in Jarden, where she died, then she might be Eve. She was after all, bitten by the snake. And the snake only bit her after she climbed up the tree and ate an egg. It rattled immediately after she ate that egg and not a split second before. It could have bitten her after any time while walking kilometres but the writers decided on that.
"Evie" might be connected to "Eve"; she has some connection to the tribeswoman (other than name) as they were in the same camera shot despite being millennia apart. Evie goes missing on almost the same exact location that Eve died.
Now, read this: http://saleonard.people.ysu.edu/campbell-shaman.html
Note these bits:
Campbell continues: “With the personifications of his destiny to guide and aid him, the hero goes forward in his adventure until he comes to the ‘threshold guardian’ at the entrance to the zone of magnified power”. (Threshold guardian also means dark guardian if you keep reading). The Australian plays this role literally on the bridge, the threshold.
"Thus, encounters with snakes and other frightening animals are similar to Campbell’s notion of the Threshold Guardian, a being that tests the hero’s worthiness to continue the Adventure. "
Notice the parallels here. I'm going to list them:
The S02E10 "snake woman" (her name in the credits) who steals Nora's baby, and the snake that bit the tribeswoman, killing her after nearly taking her baby. This already has been talked about by others.
Kevin, in the afterlife, goes to Jarden and crosses the Jarden bridge. His Threshold Guardian (The Australian) is on the bridge.
Treat the snake as a threshold Guardian as Campbell suggests. Treat the bridge as the Threshold.
As we know that Eve/tribeswoman was in Jarden, we know that the cavern where her tribesfolk died from the Earthquake cant be too far. In the afterlife Virgil asked Kevin if by Well he meant "The Caverns". Others have suggested they were the same place before, but we didn't know if the tribe was even on the same continent as Jarden.
Evie's (Eve?) trailer (where the bomb was supposed to be) offers Nora shelter after the snakewoman nearly took the baby, then left the baby on the bridge/threshold. Evie/Eve has protected the baby, from the snake/threhold-guardian, at the location of the bridge/threshold.
With the strong shaminism theme, we can weakly suggest that Evie might be some reincarnation of Eve. She shelters the baby, and witnesses the suicide of Kevin, before a miracle saves him, near where she once died. She also goes missing from the car at a location close to where Eve died, on the water's edge. We know this because the scene with the girls jumping into the lake (next to where Eve dies) has the "do not take the water sign". I just checked and Evie goes missing (the car) about 6 metres away from where Eve died on the rocks.
That bird of prey (tribeswoman sees/hears it after cavern collapse, kevin hears it at the well) can be treated as a shamanistic spirit guide. "With the personifications of his destiny to guide and aid him". The bird guides the woman to Jarden/the smoke. And it is with Kevin at the well. Both these locations are nearby though, so it might just be a reference to the fact that this is the same geography. However the bird ONLY appears in a dark guardian / threshold situation, assuming the snake is dark guardian. Never at any other times. So if that is true then what about the third dark-guardian threshold situation? Where Nora has the baby stolen by the snake(woman) at the bridge (threshold)? There was no bird in the sky there. However, the guiding spirit (bird) did appear. The snake woman is called the snake woman because of her snake scales tattoo (and her role as the snake). When Nora was lieing down on the bridge with the baby Tom Garvey arrives, and extends his arm, picks her up, and guides her and the baby to shelter. Guess what is on the arm he reaches out with!
Why would snake woman leave the baby on the middle of the bridge? Babys not heavy, and she ran with it anyway, and she was supposedly "protecting it", so what incentive would she have to leave it there. This doesnt say anything concrete about her, other than she doesn't care about the baby, but rather cares about Nora not having the baby. It means something that the baby was left on the bridge: it could have been taken or left anywhere, and it was weird to even leave the baby. The threshold guardian never seems to actually cross the bridge itself, which might be why the baby was left halfway across (she might have vanished when she tried?).
The reason that the bird did not protect the tribeswoman from the snake might be that she ate the eggs from the tree. It was after all immediately after eating the eggs that the snake appeared on the baby and attacked the woman. The bird could have been offering spiritual protection up until the moment the tribeswoman gave in to 'temptation in the garden of eden' by eating forbidden fruit (egg of the spirit guide bird).
The fact that Snake Woman seemed to just vanish in thin air seems to parallel with the fact that the snake seemed to pop out of thin air. It seems that the snake cant appear when the bird is present/protecting. The moment an egg was eaten, a snake appeared. The moment Tom Garvey was nearby the Snake Woman seemed to oddly vanish without a trace or reason.
So while before we had some a few parallels between Nora/snakewoman and tribeswoman/snake, we now also have a connection to Kevin's story. The bridge/threshold in the afterlife and the real world both had the snake/dark guardian. All dark guardian (snake) & threshold situations also have a 'bird' present (Tom Garvey is The Bird).
Following John Campbells work which the shamanism plot line is based upon, we can also predict the major themes for next season.
Kevin has been to afterlife twice. Dark Guardian challenges him each time. He says he wont come back the same. This fits in with shamanism. You have to let go of lots of different things, including family.
Campbell understood this common theme in myth as expressing certain psychological truths, a literary dramatization of the universal human need to transcend the individual’s tendency toward ego-centrism. Our repressed desires and inner conflicts present us with a “Call to Adventure” and, if we follow this call, we experience the exaltation and terror of the spiritual journey. If we face bravely all obstacles and avoid all distractions, we eventually achieve a state beyond selfishness, family, creed, and country. We become one with the universe.
Kevin just spent 2 seasons wondering if he loves his family, then
fighting to keep them until the end when they are reunited. Shamanism
requires him to reach a state beyond family (Virgil lost/gave up his).
Kevin may reach a point where he must give up his family for spiritual
truth. This may be the purpose of the priest outfit in the hotel
closet.
** TODO SHmananism
https://saleonard.people.ysu.edu/campbell-shaman.html
** Australia - Perth
For those who didn't catch it, I just replayed it on HBO go.
The audio clip on the news specifically mentioned the guy who came out of the cave was David Burton.
Broadcaster: "Resurrection, that's the claim in Australia, as witnesses described a man previously believed dead, emerging from a cave in Wanneroo, outside the city of Perth."
Australian dude (witness) :" walked out covered in mozzie bites, saying he'd just been in a hotel! "
Reporter:" The man, identified as David Burton" TV turns off
Also, I believe the tower Guy's letter was addressed to David Burton. Looking for a screenshot....
* Season three
** TODO Episode one
** TODO Episode two
** TODO Episode three

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